so the jobs numbers probably helped slow the obama fall but now we move into another week people will be talking about biden, and then a couple of more with romney and obama. >> bill: yeah, i was surprised and impressed, i guess that obama proved -- so he didn't have a good night, we all know that, but i thought he bounced back pretty quickly the next day. he has been having a lot of fun with the big bird line. and it showed a lot of resilience, i thought, and as you point out the job numbers came on friday which gave him another little boost, cutting the impact of any romney bounce. >> yeah he has an incredible amount of fire and energy when it is his back up against the wall. >> bill: yeah. >> it's almost like he puts himself in positions like that so that he can get excited about politics again. he obviously didn't want to be on that stage, wednesday night. you could just tell he was like, god, 90 minutes. i'm just going to stand here for 90 minutes and let this guy say stuff, and then he sees that the entire nation is mocking him, and then he gets fired up. his aids were talking a